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New: British Made 12AX7/ ECC813- It's Here!!

Postby Don Butler » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:42 pm

Just placed an order for the new Tube Tech 12AX7 Valve made in Blackburn, U.K. on the old Mullard site. This is a whole new design made especially for musical equipment. the site would only allow me to order one, but hopefully I can get about 6 or 8 to test out. not cheap @ $41.69 each, but if they're as good as they say and last as long as the old Mullards, then worth every dollar. I'll let you know when I get it here.
check out their site @ http://www.tubetechvalves.com Anything has got to beat the Sovtek/EH/New Sensor crap (all the same company, same valve and factory..). J/J's are good but don't have the personality I'd like, Chinese are if-y.. i know these guys have plans to make EL-84's, EL-34's and KT-66's. Great news and I really hope they're good. They've spent alot of time developing these. I've know about them for a couple of years.
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Re: New: British Made 12AX7/ ECC813

Postby Epidrake » Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:07 pm

Keep us posted Don.
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Re: New: British Made 12AX7/ ECC813

Postby Paladin » Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:59 pm

That is some really great news Don. Thanks and keep us posted.
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Re: New: British Made 12AX7/ ECC813

Postby bassbob » Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:38 pm

That's cool. Can't wait to hear your review.
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Re: New: British Made 12AX7/ ECC813

Postby patlaw » Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:43 pm

Like you said, this plan has been on the table for quite a while. I hope that they sell enough of them to stay around for a while. My old Sunn Sentura II has Mullards in it, and it's still going strong.
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Re: New: British Made 12AX7/ ECC813

Postby Don Butler » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:26 pm

patlaw wrote:Like you said, this plan has been on the table for quite a while. I hope that they sell enough of them to stay around for a while. My old Sunn Sentura II has Mullards in it, and it's still going strong.


I've got a lot of old ECC-83 Mullard's and Brimar's that are 40+ years old and still test like they were new. Speaks volumes to the quality that they put into each valve!! Every Mullard GZ-34 I use is from the early to mid `60's and kicks arse!!
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Re: New: British Made 12AX7/ ECC813- It's Here!!

Postby Don Butler » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:52 pm

Got the new TubeTech Valve E813CC (12AX7) yesterday. I gotta admit it's a pretty damn good sounding tube! Very close in tone and overall sound to my old Mullards, Brimar's and Tungsrams. Very even and has a slight mid honk to it, but doesn't sacrifice the top end at all. Very clear on the top and nice bass response too. I compared it to Mullard's, Brimar and my Tungs and it sounded very close to all three. Like splitting hairs close. I think finally we have a true decendant to the old Euro/U.K. made valves of the `60's.
They named it the "Blackburn Legacy Series"! Proper name for a great, new valve!
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Re: New: British Made 12AX7/ ECC813- It's Here!!

Postby Paladin » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:44 pm

That is great news Don, and I hope they do follow suit with the ELs and KTs. We'll be back in tone heaven with quality tubes available again and it'll be nice not having to sort through junk, hit & miss, to find the good stuff.
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Re: New: British Made 12AX7/ ECC813- It's Here!!

Postby Don Butler » Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:46 am

We'll see. hopefully it won't take as long as the 12AX7 took..
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Re: New: British Made 12AX7/ ECC813- It's Here!!

Postby DerStever » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:20 pm

Considering you'll pay twice that for a used GE Mullard - actually more - that a deal. But where do we get these wonderful toys? and when?

I replaced all of the tubes in the Marshall you see here (Marshall 1987x re-issue) with Mullards (or GE Mullards for the EL34s) and the difference in tone was day and night. JJs and EIs are compromises in Brit amps and useless in Fender vintage amps. Ok for the bedroom player but if you want the real deal live you either have to go with used or NOS.

Thanks Don - I'm looking forward to trying a couple of these puppies out myself.
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Re: New: British Made 12AX7/ ECC813- It's Here!!

Postby Greggman » Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:37 pm

Don Butler wrote:We'll see. hopefully it won't take as long as the 12AX7 took..
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Too bad it could not enhance the 12AX3s in the Selmer. :(
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Re: New: British Made 12AX7/ ECC813- It's Here!!

Postby Don Butler » Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:45 pm

Greg; those are 12AU7's/ECC82 in your Selmer. I think they are working on one of those as well.
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Re: New: British Made 12AX7/ ECC813- It's Here!!

Postby GuitArtMan » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:02 pm

Don,
I'm curious if you noticed the higher gain and somewhat high microphonics people have been talking about on other forums?
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Re: New: British Made 12AX7/ ECC813- It's Here!!

Postby Epidrake » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:18 pm

For those prices you would think they would check them out for that.
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Re: New: British Made 12AX7/ ECC813- It's Here!!

Postby GuitArtMan » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:36 am

Epidrake wrote:For those prices you would think they would check them out for that.

I haven't been up to the website recently but they used to say "not recomended for position 1" or some such due to the microphonics. Some one on TGP (yeah I know) measured one of the gain specs and found it considerably higher than standard 12ax7, so much so as to be out of spec. The good news is most people say they sound great, the tone and microphonics seem to improve with a burn in, and the company is being very responsive at addressing these issues.
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Re: New: British Made 12AX7/ ECC813- It's Here!!

Postby Don Butler » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:22 pm

I think what they're looking for on this first run is feedback from customers. I did try two in my mid-Sixties Fisher 500C tube stereo and it really is impressive. The clarity and warmth are far better than the NOS Mullards I had in the two input positions.
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